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“I invited X, you’ll love her!”

*shudder* When it comes to words of ominous dread, these rank somewhat ahead of “There’s a bomb in the building!” in terms of utter horror when coming from a certain colleague of mine.

The problem is she works on some strange social assumption that if you share one biographical descriptor with someone then you are destined to be BEST FRIENDS FOR EVAH. She finds it bemusing that I could possibly dislike someone if we have something in common “but you’re both gay!” “But you both went to the same university!” “But your neighbours!“ Yes, and George Bush and I are both men but I don’t see myself enjoying him turning up at the bar either.

It turns out that I‘d love her because she was a pagan. Ah. See, many of a co-religionists are sensible, wise and happy people who enlighten my life and raise my thoughts and I seek their knowledge and insight hungrily. Sadly many others make me want to slit their throats with razor sharp pentacles. Guess which category she falls into?

Well, the plus side was it became readily apparent about 10 minutes into any attempt at conversation that I could safely ignore everyone she had to say and focus on other people/where I would hide her body (hounds may be employed). I also got some serious mental snarking done while she was busily telling me about her past lives as Queen of various random kingdoms (and why is it, whenever someone believes they can remember past lives, they always seem to remember being a Monarch or aristocrat or priest? How come they never remember being a serf or scabby peasant or fish monger or something? You never get anyone remembering their past life as a syphilitic whore, do you? Why is that?) and how her great great grandmother was an elf (or possibly a faerie. No. Really. Must have been some kind goblin or troll I‘m thinking, because that‘s a damn chunky elf.)

In some ways I should be grateful for what I think of as “Scene” Pagans. After all, they provide more countless hours of snarky amusement even than the fashion victims. Take the choosing of a pentacle.

Many pagans will tell you of the various things the pentacle means to them. Some will talk about it being a symbol of the masculine and feminine. Some will talk of a symbol of protection. Some will talk about the 4 elements and the all/spirit/akasha. However, all of these pagans miss the essential element that the Scene Pagan understands: It’s SHINY and people can see it.

So, when choosing a penatcle the most important thing for a true Scene Pagan to consider is SIZE. Ideally a penatcle should be large enough that you have a point repeatedly jabbing you in each arm pit. This is truly ideal because not only does it tell everyone who can see you that you are a pagan (which is vitally important, since your devotion to the Lord and Lady, gods that are part of all that is requires as many people as possible to SEE you being devoted, y’know) but has the added bonus that your teachers/boss/parents may actually ask you to take it off or hide it. Then you are OMG BEING OPPRESSED and have a fun story to tell about how a primarily atheistic society is just 2 steps away from burning you (sure, it may dilute from ACTUAL IMPORTANT stories about how pagans are actually taking shit from the various powers that be, but don‘t let a little thing like that get in the way of a quality angst!)

Of course, the main thing a true Scene Pagan needs to consider with the pentacle is - is this pentacle enough? I mean, look at all the cool internet sites with all the wonderful loot on it! Surely the best way for a dedicated nature worshipper to express their faith is to be dripping in lots and lots of lead crystal? If you can actually move your arms or raise your neck comfortably then this is a sign you need more faux-silver jewellery. The Goddess demands it according to the first and most holy law of Scene Paganism: if you are a pagan the whole world needs to know about it (as for caring? Well, the world will get back to you on that one).

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Date: 2008-02-22 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meridae.livejournal.com
::evil grin:: I'm pretty sure the higher beings that are out there really have one commandment - THOU SHALL PLAY MORE WoW!!!

Bwahahahah.

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Date: 2008-02-23 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] home-of-usher.livejournal.com
Gah! No! Quit Encouraging him! I'm Deprived of Spark In Darkness!

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Date: 2008-02-23 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meridae.livejournal.com
But . . . but . . . WoW can be inspiration for all sorts of slashy things! Honest!

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I'm pre-encouraged I'm afraid

And my head has been overtaken by new muses too *cries*

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
All hail the commandment!

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Date: 2008-02-22 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilisonna.livejournal.com
Wow. Even most of the Deep Fluffies that I hung out with once upon a time never claimed to be monarch of more than one Kingdom. There were other Kewl Past Lives, but only one reigning one.

Me? Should there actually be past lives, I'm pretty convinced that I come from an unbroken line of peasants with maybe the occasional crib death or two.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
She went for the whole hog! She was extra speshul

I'm sure I'm a long line of scabby peasants who died being slightly more scabby and much more peasantish

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Date: 2008-02-22 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amynnah.livejournal.com
What I believe in... is so warped and weird that most people just kind of step back and shake their heads when I try to put it into words. That being said... I believe in many things, but don't subscribe to wearing a symbol. The crazy person you met sounds just that... crazy. She sounds like the type that would throw around random "spells" thinking "OMGZOKEWL!" when coincidently, things go her way.

Oh, and randomly... in one of my past lives, I was an English slave in Ireland... I dream about it kind of often... usually when I need insight. ^^;;;

Jeez... I'm sorry Spark... I've seen "pagans" who are only following it because it's "cool," and you're right... I absolutely want to choke them with their lead crystals.

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Date: 2008-02-27 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I always believe that belief is personal anmd if it speaksto you it doesn't need to use words

And they are crazy, but they're fun to poke too

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Date: 2008-02-22 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrho.livejournal.com
Did she have several pentacle pins on her bag which was decorated with pentacles? If not, she is clearly not as pagan as some girls I went to high school with.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Alas, she failed! Clearly she is less than truly pagan :).

The goddess weeps

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Date: 2008-02-22 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beladibaby.livejournal.com
Well rats, I've been doing it all wrong what with only my little tiny ring. Paganism is all about the bling!! Why didn't anyone tell me that years ago...
Thanks fot the laugh this morning!!! I NEEDED it!!!

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I know! My little pentacle in my shirt just shirvles compared to the bling I should have

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Date: 2008-02-22 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mauracelt.livejournal.com
How many times did we talk about this way back in the day? *shakes head and laughs* I still love your undying comments on just how idiotic the "Scene Pagan" is and just how much they Don't Know or have a clue about. Thanks for the giggles, love ya, hun. ;)

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Oh so many times. I find them less frustrating now and so so so much more amusing.

Thankee :)

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Date: 2008-02-22 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chesh.livejournal.com
One of my friends is nicknamed Raoul the Goat Boy from a rather similar online conversation. After the third reincarnation of Napoleon joined the chatroom (shortly after two reincarnations of Cleopatra had gotten into a spat), he changed his handle to Raoul the Goat Boy, reincarnation of a poverty-stricken disease-ridden herder who was killed at age 7 by a runaway cart.

Poor Raoul, we hardly knew thee.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Oh yes, so perfect when you get multiple important reincarnations together.

Raoul go it perfect! :)

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Date: 2008-02-22 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciara-belle.livejournal.com
You never get anyone remembering their past life as a syphilitic whore, do you? Why is that?

Probably because syphilis makes you insane and can give you heart disease. Although maybe assuming that they know the symptoms of syphilis is giving too much credit? Or possibly because syphilis doesn't make you the trendy kind of insane.

I'm surprised more people don't claim to have been prostitutes. After all, the 19th century ones get consumption, and that's sort of glamorous, right? It made Nicole Kidman look pretty in Moulin Rouge! ;D

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
And it's kind of squishy and yucky, can't have that in a past life.

But but but, it could be glamourous but they';re not IMPORTANT and they want to be IMPORTANT and SPESHUL precious!

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Date: 2008-02-22 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baranduyn.livejournal.com
Of course, the main thing a true Scene Pagan needs to consider with the pentacle is - is this pentacle enough? I mean, look at all the cool internet sites with all the wonderful loot on it! Surely the best way for a dedicated nature worshipper to express their faith is to be dripping in lots and lots of lead crystal? If you can actually move your arms or raise your neck comfortably then this is a sign you need more faux-silver jewellery. The Goddess demands it according to the first and most holy law of Scene Paganism: if you are a pagan the whole world needs to know about it (as for caring? Well, the world will get back to you on that one).

**twitch** I'm not getting a pentacle unless I can find one that doubles as a kind of throwing star. Theoretically I should be able to Become One With The Martially Useful Pentacle and teach it only to target those indulging in pentacle excess.

I'm not even discussing the really expensive, crystal-dripping wand thing. No. Just...no.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Now I soooo want a throwing star pentacle. That's better than the Ninja Hippie (tie-dyed cat suit, blow dart with ahllucinogens and razor edged peace sign shurikens)

I second that no.

Judging by my current karma

Date: 2008-02-22 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalajia.livejournal.com
I'm fairly sure I was a syphilitic whore working in France back in the day. I probably died with envy looking at the non-syphilitic whores down the Moulin Rouge.

Or bitched that they'd sold out and gone too mainstream ;)

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I can just see these scabby whores outside the Moulin Rouge screaming "Sell outs! It used to be about the SEX bitch!"

Re: Judging by my current karma

Date: 2008-02-27 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalajia.livejournal.com
Hey, that's scabby, thieving gypsy, whores, thank you very much ;)

(I've got Romany ancestry, I'm allowed to make that joke!)

I think I might have been Hitler and King Herod too judging by the last few days!

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Date: 2008-02-22 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirylyn.livejournal.com
I think Willow said it best:

"Bunch of Blessed Wanna Be's"

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Soooo verrry true

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Date: 2008-02-23 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] procris.livejournal.com
I was never able to find a pentacle that I considered tasteful enough to wear. Of course, in my family being pagan wasn't exactly being rebellious either... it's hard to be rebellious when being raised by UU's. I believe the words used were "Honey, as long as it doesn't involve blood sacrifice, anything you believe is ok."

That said, any past lives I may or may not have had probably involved being a scandinavian peasant, if current genetics are any indication. Hitch to the plow when the oxen dies style.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
The problem is they're so commercialised that so very few are even remotely tasteful. A lot are just bling and so many have THINGS on them - vines and skulls and fakes gems and gods alone know what else - how hard is it to get a simple little pentacle?

Heee, I had the same problem. Damned liberal parents being all reaosnable and non-shockable!

Reincarnated peasants of the world! UNITE!

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Date: 2008-02-23 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisdaydreamer.livejournal.com
*laughs* Considering the hints I have gotten, I believe I was a farmer, a nun, and someone who owned a horse during the colonial period. The last one was almost certainly the highest in rank of the lot, just for owning a horse.

Cleopatra? Napoleon? Delusional much? Or maybe their clairvoyant friend with the past life cards told them.

There was a post on [livejournal.com profile] stupid_free recently about a kid who asked [livejournal.com profile] thequestionclub for some spells to summon an unknown spirit they sensed in the woods. The brat even lives in the same state I do! I don't know who was less impressed - the pagans or the nonpagans.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
A nun! Wow, we gots ourself a high classie peasant here! :)

Aye, especially if they pay him enough


Nonpagans would think him crazy. Pagans would think him batshit insane

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Date: 2008-02-23 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] home-of-usher.livejournal.com
and how her great great grandmother was an elf (or possibly a faerie. No. Really. Must have been some kind goblin or troll I‘m thinking, because that‘s a damn chunky elf.)

hehe maybe her 'fae mein' was skinny? *snirkcough* [/changeling]

Call it part fandom, part spiritualism, but I kinda prefer the heartagram over the pentacle mainly because of all the Baby!witches that flaunted it so much even if they had half of an idea what it means. To me, the symbol just because another star. It's nice, but doesn't hold any particular symbolism for me. While in the Pentagram I can see quite clearly the posative and negative conjoined. And such is life. The good and the bad. A different kind of yin and yang.

The teenybobbing Skater bastards are trying to ruin it for me calling it a Bam-agram, but thankfully those are in the minority and I can beat them up easier than a horde of wannabe witches. I feel less karmatically guilty if I beat up the skaters anyways.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Heee, damn powerful galmour there. Sounds like a Redcap pretending to be Sidhe.

I like the elements of the pentacle so am still a big fan and will fight off scene pagans with a stick if I must. A big stick. With a fish on it. You take the skaters.

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Date: 2008-02-23 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logophilos.livejournal.com
her great great grandmother was an elf

I'm sorry. There's religious tolerance (which as a practicing atheist, I always having trouble with) and then there's pointing out that someone is seriously, completely batshit insane, with delusions of grandma and everything.

People like this are in the same category as those who believe they are reincarnations of anime characters. I abjure all pretence of acceptance and just get on with the hefty pointing and laughing :)

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
There are times when you just have to put aside the gentle understanding and reach for the biiiiig stick of sanity. It's for their own good (and our infinite amusement)

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Date: 2008-02-23 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-here.livejournal.com
Pigs. Pigs would eat the body no trouble at all.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
And as an added bonus will eventually give you pork!

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Date: 2008-02-24 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] home-of-usher.livejournal.com
OOO! Just had a thought. I wonder if there's an LJ community called Scene_Pagans_Suck. Or maybe we can make one. Hehehehee. I'd love to hear more snark. :P

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
There probably isn't.... but now I r tempted

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Date: 2008-02-26 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cally7.livejournal.com
You just described my sister to a T. I dared to tell her I was interested in pagan beliefs and all the Celtic stuff. Of course from a raving agnostic she turns right around and becomes the person you describe. Including all the "psychic" powers and going to meets and wearing more jewellry than Magrat Garlik.

She now tells me what the truth faith is and what it is really all about and how important it is. She is worse than a born again Christian. I want to slap her when she dictates to me things I talked about years before.

The worst thing is she is 13 years older than me, so at 54 she is the oldest "Scene Pagan" I've ever met. Maybe I should tell her I am interested in the Moonies next, that could be interesting.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Oh it can get very veyr depressing but Scene Paganism is not always grown out of. Though they do tend to mix it with with excess hippie gear to prove their credentials (I r older pagan than you I r scener than you!)

Lol are you trying to make her join weird loopy faiths so you can point and laugh?

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