Some snark, because I likes me some snark
Feb. 22nd, 2008 12:59 pm“I invited X, you’ll love her!”
*shudder* When it comes to words of ominous dread, these rank somewhat ahead of “There’s a bomb in the building!” in terms of utter horror when coming from a certain colleague of mine.
The problem is she works on some strange social assumption that if you share one biographical descriptor with someone then you are destined to be BEST FRIENDS FOR EVAH. She finds it bemusing that I could possibly dislike someone if we have something in common “but you’re both gay!” “But you both went to the same university!” “But your neighbours!“ Yes, and George Bush and I are both men but I don’t see myself enjoying him turning up at the bar either.
It turns out that I‘d love her because she was a pagan. Ah. See, many of a co-religionists are sensible, wise and happy people who enlighten my life and raise my thoughts and I seek their knowledge and insight hungrily. Sadly many others make me want to slit their throats with razor sharp pentacles. Guess which category she falls into?
Well, the plus side was it became readily apparent about 10 minutes into any attempt at conversation that I could safely ignore everyone she had to say and focus on other people/where I would hide her body (hounds may be employed). I also got some serious mental snarking done while she was busily telling me about her past lives as Queen of various random kingdoms (and why is it, whenever someone believes they can remember past lives, they always seem to remember being a Monarch or aristocrat or priest? How come they never remember being a serf or scabby peasant or fish monger or something? You never get anyone remembering their past life as a syphilitic whore, do you? Why is that?) and how her great great grandmother was an elf (or possibly a faerie. No. Really. Must have been some kind goblin or troll I‘m thinking, because that‘s a damn chunky elf.)
In some ways I should be grateful for what I think of as “Scene” Pagans. After all, they provide more countless hours of snarky amusement even than the fashion victims. Take the choosing of a pentacle.
Many pagans will tell you of the various things the pentacle means to them. Some will talk about it being a symbol of the masculine and feminine. Some will talk of a symbol of protection. Some will talk about the 4 elements and the all/spirit/akasha. However, all of these pagans miss the essential element that the Scene Pagan understands: It’s SHINY and people can see it.
So, when choosing a penatcle the most important thing for a true Scene Pagan to consider is SIZE. Ideally a penatcle should be large enough that you have a point repeatedly jabbing you in each arm pit. This is truly ideal because not only does it tell everyone who can see you that you are a pagan (which is vitally important, since your devotion to the Lord and Lady, gods that are part of all that is requires as many people as possible to SEE you being devoted, y’know) but has the added bonus that your teachers/boss/parents may actually ask you to take it off or hide it. Then you are OMG BEING OPPRESSED and have a fun story to tell about how a primarily atheistic society is just 2 steps away from burning you (sure, it may dilute from ACTUAL IMPORTANT stories about how pagans are actually taking shit from the various powers that be, but don‘t let a little thing like that get in the way of a quality angst!)
Of course, the main thing a true Scene Pagan needs to consider with the pentacle is - is this pentacle enough? I mean, look at all the cool internet sites with all the wonderful loot on it! Surely the best way for a dedicated nature worshipper to express their faith is to be dripping in lots and lots of lead crystal? If you can actually move your arms or raise your neck comfortably then this is a sign you need more faux-silver jewellery. The Goddess demands it according to the first and most holy law of Scene Paganism: if you are a pagan the whole world needs to know about it (as for caring? Well, the world will get back to you on that one).
*shudder* When it comes to words of ominous dread, these rank somewhat ahead of “There’s a bomb in the building!” in terms of utter horror when coming from a certain colleague of mine.
The problem is she works on some strange social assumption that if you share one biographical descriptor with someone then you are destined to be BEST FRIENDS FOR EVAH. She finds it bemusing that I could possibly dislike someone if we have something in common “but you’re both gay!” “But you both went to the same university!” “But your neighbours!“ Yes, and George Bush and I are both men but I don’t see myself enjoying him turning up at the bar either.
It turns out that I‘d love her because she was a pagan. Ah. See, many of a co-religionists are sensible, wise and happy people who enlighten my life and raise my thoughts and I seek their knowledge and insight hungrily. Sadly many others make me want to slit their throats with razor sharp pentacles. Guess which category she falls into?
Well, the plus side was it became readily apparent about 10 minutes into any attempt at conversation that I could safely ignore everyone she had to say and focus on other people/where I would hide her body (hounds may be employed). I also got some serious mental snarking done while she was busily telling me about her past lives as Queen of various random kingdoms (and why is it, whenever someone believes they can remember past lives, they always seem to remember being a Monarch or aristocrat or priest? How come they never remember being a serf or scabby peasant or fish monger or something? You never get anyone remembering their past life as a syphilitic whore, do you? Why is that?) and how her great great grandmother was an elf (or possibly a faerie. No. Really. Must have been some kind goblin or troll I‘m thinking, because that‘s a damn chunky elf.)
In some ways I should be grateful for what I think of as “Scene” Pagans. After all, they provide more countless hours of snarky amusement even than the fashion victims. Take the choosing of a pentacle.
Many pagans will tell you of the various things the pentacle means to them. Some will talk about it being a symbol of the masculine and feminine. Some will talk of a symbol of protection. Some will talk about the 4 elements and the all/spirit/akasha. However, all of these pagans miss the essential element that the Scene Pagan understands: It’s SHINY and people can see it.
So, when choosing a penatcle the most important thing for a true Scene Pagan to consider is SIZE. Ideally a penatcle should be large enough that you have a point repeatedly jabbing you in each arm pit. This is truly ideal because not only does it tell everyone who can see you that you are a pagan (which is vitally important, since your devotion to the Lord and Lady, gods that are part of all that is requires as many people as possible to SEE you being devoted, y’know) but has the added bonus that your teachers/boss/parents may actually ask you to take it off or hide it. Then you are OMG BEING OPPRESSED and have a fun story to tell about how a primarily atheistic society is just 2 steps away from burning you (sure, it may dilute from ACTUAL IMPORTANT stories about how pagans are actually taking shit from the various powers that be, but don‘t let a little thing like that get in the way of a quality angst!)
Of course, the main thing a true Scene Pagan needs to consider with the pentacle is - is this pentacle enough? I mean, look at all the cool internet sites with all the wonderful loot on it! Surely the best way for a dedicated nature worshipper to express their faith is to be dripping in lots and lots of lead crystal? If you can actually move your arms or raise your neck comfortably then this is a sign you need more faux-silver jewellery. The Goddess demands it according to the first and most holy law of Scene Paganism: if you are a pagan the whole world needs to know about it (as for caring? Well, the world will get back to you on that one).
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Date: 2008-02-22 01:05 pm (UTC)Bwahahahah.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:51 am (UTC)And my head has been overtaken by new muses too *cries*
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-22 01:24 pm (UTC)Me? Should there actually be past lives, I'm pretty convinced that I come from an unbroken line of peasants with maybe the occasional crib death or two.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:56 am (UTC)I'm sure I'm a long line of scabby peasants who died being slightly more scabby and much more peasantish
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Date: 2008-02-22 01:31 pm (UTC)Oh, and randomly... in one of my past lives, I was an English slave in Ireland... I dream about it kind of often... usually when I need insight. ^^;;;
Jeez... I'm sorry Spark... I've seen "pagans" who are only following it because it's "cool," and you're right... I absolutely want to choke them with their lead crystals.
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Date: 2008-02-27 02:16 am (UTC)And they are crazy, but they're fun to poke too
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Date: 2008-02-22 01:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)The goddess weeps
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Date: 2008-02-22 02:53 pm (UTC)Thanks fot the laugh this morning!!! I NEEDED it!!!
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)Thankee :)
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Date: 2008-02-22 04:20 pm (UTC)Poor Raoul, we hardly knew thee.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:35 pm (UTC)Raoul go it perfect! :)
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Date: 2008-02-22 04:45 pm (UTC)Probably because syphilis makes you insane and can give you heart disease. Although maybe assuming that they know the symptoms of syphilis is giving too much credit? Or possibly because syphilis doesn't make you the trendy kind of insane.
I'm surprised more people don't claim to have been prostitutes. After all, the 19th century ones get consumption, and that's sort of glamorous, right? It made Nicole Kidman look pretty in Moulin Rouge! ;D
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:36 pm (UTC)But but but, it could be glamourous but they';re not IMPORTANT and they want to be IMPORTANT and SPESHUL precious!
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Date: 2008-02-22 05:20 pm (UTC)**twitch** I'm not getting a pentacle unless I can find one that doubles as a kind of throwing star. Theoretically I should be able to Become One With The Martially Useful Pentacle and teach it only to target those indulging in pentacle excess.
I'm not even discussing the really expensive, crystal-dripping wand thing. No. Just...no.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:42 pm (UTC)I second that no.
Judging by my current karma
Date: 2008-02-22 05:32 pm (UTC)Or bitched that they'd sold out and gone too mainstream ;)
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:43 pm (UTC)Re: Judging by my current karma
Date: 2008-02-27 07:14 pm (UTC)(I've got Romany ancestry, I'm allowed to make that joke!)
I think I might have been Hitler and King Herod too judging by the last few days!
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Date: 2008-02-22 09:33 pm (UTC)"Bunch of Blessed Wanna Be's"
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-02-23 04:12 am (UTC)That said, any past lives I may or may not have had probably involved being a scandinavian peasant, if current genetics are any indication. Hitch to the plow when the oxen dies style.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:45 pm (UTC)Heee, I had the same problem. Damned liberal parents being all reaosnable and non-shockable!
Reincarnated peasants of the world! UNITE!
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Date: 2008-02-23 07:36 am (UTC)Cleopatra? Napoleon? Delusional much? Or maybe their clairvoyant friend with the past life cards told them.
There was a post on
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:47 pm (UTC)Aye, especially if they pay him enough
Nonpagans would think him crazy. Pagans would think him batshit insane
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Date: 2008-02-23 10:30 am (UTC)hehe maybe her 'fae mein' was skinny? *snirkcough* [/changeling]
Call it part fandom, part spiritualism, but I kinda prefer the heartagram over the pentacle mainly because of all the Baby!witches that flaunted it so much even if they had half of an idea what it means. To me, the symbol just because another star. It's nice, but doesn't hold any particular symbolism for me. While in the Pentagram I can see quite clearly the posative and negative conjoined. And such is life. The good and the bad. A different kind of yin and yang.
The teenybobbing Skater bastards are trying to ruin it for me calling it a Bam-agram, but thankfully those are in the minority and I can beat them up easier than a horde of wannabe witches. I feel less karmatically guilty if I beat up the skaters anyways.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:49 pm (UTC)I like the elements of the pentacle so am still a big fan and will fight off scene pagans with a stick if I must. A big stick. With a fish on it. You take the skaters.
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Date: 2008-02-23 10:54 am (UTC)I'm sorry. There's religious tolerance (which as a practicing atheist, I always having trouble with) and then there's pointing out that someone is seriously, completely batshit insane, with delusions of grandma and everything.
People like this are in the same category as those who believe they are reincarnations of anime characters. I abjure all pretence of acceptance and just get on with the hefty pointing and laughing :)
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Date: 2008-02-26 11:53 am (UTC)She now tells me what the truth faith is and what it is really all about and how important it is. She is worse than a born again Christian. I want to slap her when she dictates to me things I talked about years before.
The worst thing is she is 13 years older than me, so at 54 she is the oldest "Scene Pagan" I've ever met. Maybe I should tell her I am interested in the Moonies next, that could be interesting.
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Date: 2008-02-27 01:58 pm (UTC)Lol are you trying to make her join weird loopy faiths so you can point and laugh?