Browsing through the political forums I frequent, vaguely amused and saw that some of the old "are homosexuals good or evil" and their ilk and related topics debates have been resurrected. Ready to leap back into the debate if need be when i see that the same poster has resurrected most of them. I'd kind of given up any kind of debate long ago with this guy because he's... somewhat heated and irrational and the debates just didn't go anywhere.
Then I saw what was posted - expressly addressed to ME, personally, apparently. Yep, addressed to my screen name. Some of the more incredible bits from various threads:
You are a bigot. You are a liar. Your marriage is phoney. The sex youengage in is prudish & falls short of even being imitation.Insisting that you be accepted by society is selfishness beyondmeasure. Revealing yourself as a "ladie" has got to be the mostrevolting thing ever posted here as well.
All of you little boys that like to gang bang others with the SOS ofsniveling are pathectic. You couldn't lift a defense to save your life. Remember "ladie", you are completely arrested by emotion & you throw nothing but trash at others when they post the truth.
You were & still are completely arrested byyour emotion. You're a slanderous charactor assassin. You live in humanhypocracy.
(talking to a poster who joked that they were giving me a hard time by saying I epitomised that all the best men are married or gay - since I was both) You weren't giving him a hard time. You wereboosting an effeminate phoney that thinks what is on my toilet paper isattractive. You were telling that type of human hypocracy that he isthe model of men
As Beloved said "Wow, did you run over that guy's cat or something?" I mean, damn, isn't it slightly insane that you can hold this level of hostility towards someone you have only communicated with in text?
I'm actually more amused than anything, it's so ridiculously over the top to approach the level of parody (assuming he ISN'T a parody). As an added bonus most of the forum did a collective "WTF 0_o?" response, even some of the more conservative Christians on the board being considerably less than approving.
See, this is why I like extreme homophobes like Fred Phelps. The only thing that harms these people as much as they themselves do is the general movement that comes from people realisingthey have gay friends, neighbours and families. Very little has the power to destroy the homophobe movement faster than the sheeer frothing insanity of its more extreme members.
Then I saw what was posted - expressly addressed to ME, personally, apparently. Yep, addressed to my screen name. Some of the more incredible bits from various threads:
You are a bigot. You are a liar. Your marriage is phoney. The sex youengage in is prudish & falls short of even being imitation.Insisting that you be accepted by society is selfishness beyondmeasure. Revealing yourself as a "ladie" has got to be the mostrevolting thing ever posted here as well.
All of you little boys that like to gang bang others with the SOS ofsniveling are pathectic. You couldn't lift a defense to save your life. Remember "ladie", you are completely arrested by emotion & you throw nothing but trash at others when they post the truth.
You were & still are completely arrested byyour emotion. You're a slanderous charactor assassin. You live in humanhypocracy.
(talking to a poster who joked that they were giving me a hard time by saying I epitomised that all the best men are married or gay - since I was both) You weren't giving him a hard time. You wereboosting an effeminate phoney that thinks what is on my toilet paper isattractive. You were telling that type of human hypocracy that he isthe model of men
As Beloved said "Wow, did you run over that guy's cat or something?" I mean, damn, isn't it slightly insane that you can hold this level of hostility towards someone you have only communicated with in text?
I'm actually more amused than anything, it's so ridiculously over the top to approach the level of parody (assuming he ISN'T a parody). As an added bonus most of the forum did a collective "WTF 0_o?" response, even some of the more conservative Christians on the board being considerably less than approving.
See, this is why I like extreme homophobes like Fred Phelps. The only thing that harms these people as much as they themselves do is the general movement that comes from people realisingthey have gay friends, neighbours and families. Very little has the power to destroy the homophobe movement faster than the sheeer frothing insanity of its more extreme members.
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Date: 2007-09-30 01:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2007-09-30 02:54 am (UTC)And hon, you're a far better model of men than this waste of carbon compounds could ever be. He'd have to be on meds for a year before he was merely batshit crazy.
I'm sorry you've been subjected to this. I'm glad you've got such a sense of humour about it, but I wish you didn't need one for this trash.
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:03 pm (UTC)I am better than this creature :) I know, I mean they don't make meds anywhere near powerful enough for this muppet. I personally look at his distribe as PROOF I am better. We debated, he was bad at it, he resorted to the verbal equivalent of faeces throwing while I remained polite and calm - I think that's an inherent win for me and an admission of defeat from him.
Thank you. This? Doesn't bother me (not like insane grandmother of godchild) UI think becuase it's in text rather than face to face, because I already know they guy is a lunatic and because it is SO over the top. It's almost a parody. i hope he actually keeps it up - he has done more to damage the homophobes on that forum than i could manage with any amount of reasoned debate
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Date: 2007-09-30 03:15 am (UTC)And I know the answer to the question of whether gays are good or evil - when you're good, you're very very good, but when you're bad, you're better! Bwahahahahahah!!
::hugs Sparky:: Gay or straight, you make the world better just by being in it. And the fact you read my fic is quite good too. Teehee.
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Date: 2007-09-30 07:12 am (UTC)...I'm still sitting here opening and closing my mouth with this big ?! over my head.
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Date: 2007-09-30 08:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-30 12:17 pm (UTC)His definition of prudish (seriously, it's mad):
The only "good" sex (and by that he means physically satisfying would you believe) is heterosexual sex between 2 married people (presumably to each other) and only then if they were virginal before marriage. All other sex is lacking and therefore anyone who engages in "lesser" sex is prudish because they refuse to have "proper" sex.
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:16 pm (UTC)The only "good" sex (and by that he means physically satisfying would you believe) is heterosexual sex between 2 married people (presumably to each other) and only then if they were virginal before marriage. All other sex is lacking and therefore anyone who engages in "lesser" sex is prudish because they refuse to have "proper" sex.
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:36 pm (UTC)So... he thinks that marriage somehow makes sex better? And how does being a virgin make it better, it just means you don't know how shit it is.
Somehow, the more of his rants you post, the more it seems like he's in denial and envious of yourself and your beloved. Oh, and the more he seems to need a dictionary.
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Date: 2007-10-01 10:17 am (UTC)I have NO idea what the appeal of virginity is, really I don't. I've never got it - I mean "yay a virgin?" surely that's more "yay, someone who is going to accidently use teeth in oral sex?"
He needs a spell check and to get laid. By a guy. I think that's the unanimous conclusion
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:07 pm (UTC)here's his logic (I use the term loosely)
The only "good" sex (and by that he means physically satisfying would you believe) is heterosexual sex between 2 married people (presumably to each other) and only then if they were virginal before marriage. All other sex is lacking and therefore anyone who engages in "lesser" sex is prudish because they refuse to have "proper" sex.
Or, in other words, he's batshit insane
When I'm, baaaaad I'm soooo much better than evil :)
Thank you *hugs and luffles*
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:15 pm (UTC)Anyways . . . I wonder if he knows that 'prudish' is less of an insult than, say, 'promiscuous'.
(Mark says he's not promiscuous - he's just generous. Keith says that Mark better well bloody become thoroughly selfish very quickly. Tehehehe).
I'm sure beloved appreciates your evilness in all the best ways.
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Date: 2007-10-01 10:27 am (UTC)I think it's laughable that he would try to use either :)
Aaaah, such a selflessly kind person!
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Date: 2007-09-30 04:54 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-30 12:11 pm (UTC)What's amusing me is even the other right wing christians on the site are now questioning this guy's sexuality, saying that maybe he should check his own orientation if he is that vehement and rabid against gays - as one of the other homosexuals put it "you think about gay sex more than I do!"
So, his diatribe has turned half the forum against him, made everyone think he is a closet case and hurt his case a lot. Win win WIN!
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Date: 2007-09-30 05:17 am (UTC)And I know what you mean about Phelps. Have you seen this?
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Date: 2007-09-30 07:28 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-30 12:12 pm (UTC)LOL! I love it
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Date: 2007-09-30 07:14 am (UTC)...And this guy is an absolute model of composure, decency, and... spelling. *twitch* You know, overall... this whole thing screams of protesting too much. Don't hate others for what you hate in yourself, etc.
And um... what the heck is a 'ladie'?
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Date: 2007-09-30 12:14 pm (UTC)Yes, I think everyone on the forum is convinced this guy is a closet case - he's just too obsessed with homosexuality and gay sex. He's too vehement - closet closet closet
"ladie" Ah, this is one of his stupid insults, akin to his old insult of "sadsexual" (he resented the term "gay" since we couldn't possibly know the meaning of happiness).
Basically a "ladie" is a mix of a "lad" and a "lady" in other words, he is questioning my masculinity or implying I am not a man or am a ladyboy or something
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Date: 2007-09-30 04:51 pm (UTC)...Okay... not to get all psychoanalytical on this, or anything... but if his theory of sex with women (god I hope it's just a theory, nobody deserves THAT) is centered around acheiving some mystical amazing satisfaction and happiness... I mean, who's he really trying to convince here, us or himself?
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Date: 2007-10-01 10:51 am (UTC)Yeah, I think he's definitely aiming for full self-delusion
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Date: 2007-10-01 03:17 pm (UTC)Here's a way to achieve your aims. He gets laid, he's not inflicted on a sexual partner, and your alignment becomes official as Wonderful/Snarky.
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Date: 2007-10-07 02:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-30 12:39 pm (UTC)I've heard of erotophobic but he's homo-erotophobic with a dose of Orwell's 1984.
At least he's not tripped over from fear to hate and seems to be confining himself to text.
Some are phobic but some hate, so far I've not gotten wind of fred phelps resorting to violence but his brand of bigotry is not fear. If he crosses the line I want popcorn and a live feed as there are a whole lot of people who will cheerfully hunt him who have guns and badges and even more who just have guns.
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Date: 2007-10-01 11:47 am (UTC)He's repressed, suippressed and oppressing himself. I will poke him and giggle.
I think he has made the leap from fear to hate, but not to violence. yet anyway.
Phelps hasn't resorted to violence - he knows he'll be shut down in a second if he does - he just acts as a cheerleader for the violent. Homophobic violence happens as often as it odes and as severely as it does because the vocal people like Phelps and Robertson and Falwell and all the rest of the hate brigade create the atmosphere that encourages and lauds such ahtred and prejudice. We'd have a lot less violence if it weren't for the cheerleaders of hate
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Date: 2007-10-01 12:11 pm (UTC)You know, if they're going to do that they could at least use some relevant passages, like the book of Solomon for example :D
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Date: 2007-10-01 11:52 am (UTC)especially if the stick is sharp
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Date: 2007-10-01 11:59 am (UTC)Errr.... well defining "all the cock" to "one very nice cock" *avoids beloved's glare*
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Date: 2007-10-06 01:05 pm (UTC)Try again....
"Psychology teaches us that things which we fear/are adamant against is more usually something that we ourselves fear is part of us by nature." Psych 101 (same basic statement, more clearly defined than last attempt) ;)
Me thinks that fella best to watch his own tail more closely lest he back onto a pole and like it, eh? *giggles*
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Date: 2007-10-07 02:18 pm (UTC)And yes, I think everyone who has come across thiis guy has firmly loabelled him as a typical extreme closet case