First wedding report: The BAD.
Aug. 23rd, 2007 10:49 pmMuch craziness was witnessed, participated in and ran from at the wedding, as was expected. Unfortunately more than any amusement snark, one particular incident kind of outweighs them all for me and lowers my faith in humanity again.
I met up with (surprise to surprise - you have to do the round of cousins) one my cousins. I’m quite close to Rache. I grew up with her, when one of us wasn’t travelling we saw each other daily almost. She was one of the first people I came out to and the first to slap me upside the head for not telling more people. When her daughter was born she wanted me to be her godfather (for 2 reasons: 1) she wanted to see if I could enter a church without turning to ash and 2) godparents are obliged to give free, no-notice babysitting. Apparently. So she says).
Having circled the buffet 3 times, talked to 4 elderly relatives and even petted cats I could no longer avoid her and that gleam in her eye that all parents get now and then - y’know the one, the one that says “Argh! I’m going to carve out my womb so I never spawn again!” so I am ambushed by her and her New (ish) mother-in-law, who I have not yet had the pleasure to meet.
So we talk, inevitably a request for imminent babysitting next week raises its head, to which I acquiesce graciously and carefully remove the shrimp fork from her white-knuckle grip, we remind MiL that I’m little bratleigh’s godfather and that I have babysitted her dozens of time (I mutter “hundreds” and get a jugular piercing glare). All is happy and we move the conversation on, discover MiL is largely non-objectionable despite being death as a post and inclined to leap topics without warning.
Then I realised that Beloved had scarpered to some island of sanity and asked if Rache had seen him so I couldslap him upside the head request his return, and new MiL speaks up.
MiL: Who IS Beloved?
R: Sparky’s other half.
Me: *nods*
MiL: *pause* You’re gay?
Me: yes.
MiL: *to Rache in a not-quite-but-meant-to-be-whisper-of-the-hard-of-hearing* Is that safe?
Me: *confused* No, you need to stand back. I may explode and shower the room with rainbows at any moment
Rache: I think we’re all safe here *also confused. Clearly questioning MiL’s sanity and worrying about daughter‘s genetics*
MiL: I mean Bratleigh...
Me: *Confused, bratleigh is at home* You receiving psychic warnings now? I thought we segregated all the elderly women who thought they were psychic near the gin.
MiL: I mean, you know *sickly grin* Babysitting.
Rache: *is lost* no...
Me: *clinging to confusion* Oh, she did not. Bitch, tell me you did not just imply what I thought you did?
MiL: *turns to me, a little red faced, attempt at smile* No offence.
Rache: *penny drops. Turns bright red. Clearly planning on extracting spouse’s genetics from spawn as soon as she can find a big enough plunger*
Me: Oh my gods, you did! *walks away*
Rache chased me down later to apologise (and, sadly, confirm that YES, she was worried about leaving her granddaughter in the evil, pernicious clutches of homosexuals). Which is awkward because I really don’t want Rache to feel awkward or apologetic because her MiL is an insane troglodyte. OK, what I REALLY don’t want is to people assume I’m a child predator because I’m gay (and “no offence“? C’mon, woman, you just implied I’m some kind of child abuser or paedophile. In what alternate dimension can this NOT be offensive?) but my cousin not feeling like shit will do for now.
Thankfully it was near the end of the night so only Beloved had to endure my arsey mood. Which is kind of stupid because, I should soooo be above this. I seen worse, I’ve heard worse, I thought I was immune to this kind of rubbish, but every now and then one gets through. Why do I still let this crap get to me?
I met up with (surprise to surprise - you have to do the round of cousins) one my cousins. I’m quite close to Rache. I grew up with her, when one of us wasn’t travelling we saw each other daily almost. She was one of the first people I came out to and the first to slap me upside the head for not telling more people. When her daughter was born she wanted me to be her godfather (for 2 reasons: 1) she wanted to see if I could enter a church without turning to ash and 2) godparents are obliged to give free, no-notice babysitting. Apparently. So she says).
Having circled the buffet 3 times, talked to 4 elderly relatives and even petted cats I could no longer avoid her and that gleam in her eye that all parents get now and then - y’know the one, the one that says “Argh! I’m going to carve out my womb so I never spawn again!” so I am ambushed by her and her New (ish) mother-in-law, who I have not yet had the pleasure to meet.
So we talk, inevitably a request for imminent babysitting next week raises its head, to which I acquiesce graciously and carefully remove the shrimp fork from her white-knuckle grip, we remind MiL that I’m little bratleigh’s godfather and that I have babysitted her dozens of time (I mutter “hundreds” and get a jugular piercing glare). All is happy and we move the conversation on, discover MiL is largely non-objectionable despite being death as a post and inclined to leap topics without warning.
Then I realised that Beloved had scarpered to some island of sanity and asked if Rache had seen him so I could
MiL: Who IS Beloved?
R: Sparky’s other half.
Me: *nods*
MiL: *pause* You’re gay?
Me: yes.
MiL: *to Rache in a not-quite-but-meant-to-be-whisper-of-the-hard-of-hearing* Is that safe?
Me: *confused* No, you need to stand back. I may explode and shower the room with rainbows at any moment
Rache: I think we’re all safe here *also confused. Clearly questioning MiL’s sanity and worrying about daughter‘s genetics*
MiL: I mean Bratleigh...
Me: *Confused, bratleigh is at home* You receiving psychic warnings now? I thought we segregated all the elderly women who thought they were psychic near the gin.
MiL: I mean, you know *sickly grin* Babysitting.
Rache: *is lost* no...
Me: *clinging to confusion* Oh, she did not. Bitch, tell me you did not just imply what I thought you did?
MiL: *turns to me, a little red faced, attempt at smile* No offence.
Rache: *penny drops. Turns bright red. Clearly planning on extracting spouse’s genetics from spawn as soon as she can find a big enough plunger*
Me: Oh my gods, you did! *walks away*
Rache chased me down later to apologise (and, sadly, confirm that YES, she was worried about leaving her granddaughter in the evil, pernicious clutches of homosexuals). Which is awkward because I really don’t want Rache to feel awkward or apologetic because her MiL is an insane troglodyte. OK, what I REALLY don’t want is to people assume I’m a child predator because I’m gay (and “no offence“? C’mon, woman, you just implied I’m some kind of child abuser or paedophile. In what alternate dimension can this NOT be offensive?) but my cousin not feeling like shit will do for now.
Thankfully it was near the end of the night so only Beloved had to endure my arsey mood. Which is kind of stupid because, I should soooo be above this. I seen worse, I’ve heard worse, I thought I was immune to this kind of rubbish, but every now and then one gets through. Why do I still let this crap get to me?
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Date: 2007-08-23 09:55 pm (UTC)*cough* See my recent frothing over pr0n and hypocrisy...
It's really kind of sad the automatic associations people make. I suppose I'm occasionally guilty of drawing connections that don't exist myself, but you really would think that people would notice that (duh!) implying somebody is a pedophile isn't exactly nice.
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Date: 2007-08-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:43 pm (UTC)i'm sorry, the two molesters i knew were straight. statistically, the vast majority of them present themselves as so. in other words, go fuck yourself, lady.
you did good. 'cause obviously, you ripping her face off wouldn't have accomplished anything. ...i do rather wish i was there, tho. >=(
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:44 pm (UTC)Because, love, you're still human and hope that there's humanity in everyone.
I still have to kick myself an average of twice a week when someone's rampant stupidity surprises me. Assuming all gay people are pedophiles (paedophiles for you over there) is stupid and involves almost willfull ignorance.
Please tell Rache she is not responsible for her MIL's idiocy. I actually stopped speaking to mine about seven years ago (cumulative crap) and feel the better for it.
Please also remember, Sparky, you don't WANT someone like Rache's MIL to like you; having someone that venal, shallow and half-bright like you would reflect badly on your own character.
I advise an advanced course in junk kicking (can be done to women too and is every bit as devastating) or finally giving into my karma and allowing myself to be hired out for judicious junk kicking when necessary. I has boots. ;)
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 10:50 pm (UTC)Makes me want to breed so I could ask you to babysit myself - the worst I could see happening to my putative offspring was that you might pass on your appalling taste in curtains :)
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Date: 2007-08-23 10:54 pm (UTC)Anyway, good for you for not sinking to her level, even in the face of the "no offence" defence
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Date: 2007-08-23 11:11 pm (UTC)We decided in college that if anyone was contagious with Teh Gay, it was my friend who's going to be a children's librarian. He's gay and transgendered. I'd have him babysit for me any time, if I ever spawned.
On the same level, we decided that another of my friends gave you cancer. Sit with one, you get Gay. Sit with the other, you get Cancer. We had too much time on our hands, obviously.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:14 pm (UTC)*looks and nosies*
People make assumptions all the time, and they're often wrong, fair enough - it's just this one? Really shouldn't be made any more *sigh*
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:15 pm (UTC)(Alright, unfair of me. By all accounts she is rather paranoid of her granddaughter's safety, I'm just not feeling very fair right now)
Still, maybe I can borrow some of his toys
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:17 pm (UTC)Yes, it was a hurtful thing to say, but... well, I'm kind of used to it? I'm an out-of-the-closet homosexual, you expect some nasty words thrown at you now and then, so it's normally water off a duck's back.
Thank you, one day this stupidity may all be gone
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Date: 2007-08-23 11:26 pm (UTC)Because it fucking hurts. You are perfectly entitled to feel hurt when someone implies that you might in some way injure a person you care about. Saying "no offence" doesn't make it hurt less. Being a idiot and an outsider and an insane troglodyte doesn't make it hurt less. And saying "don't let it get to you" doesn't make it hurt less.
For me, "not letting things get to me" doesn't mean that the insult doesn't hurt; it just means I don't dwell and brood on it forever. I go home, eat ice cream, rewatch my favourite bits of Pride and Prejudice
(anything with wet Colin Firth), and eventually get over it. For you, I prescribe cuddling with Beloved--and with Bratleigh, when she comes over to be babysat. Preferably in front of Insane Troglodyte. :D(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:42 pm (UTC)Also, I hate "No offence, but..." statements. Just like anyone who starts a sentence with "I'm not a racist, but..." Both of those openings are WITHOUT FAIL followed by something that's incredibly offensive and/or racist.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:43 pm (UTC)It's amazing isn't it? Shouldn't natural selection have pruned these out by now?
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:45 pm (UTC)Exactly the response I wanted to say to the wretched woman. But didn't, because I don't want to ruin a wedding AND make Rache's relationship with her inlaws (who she has to put up with) difficult.
Thanks. I admit, if we weren't at my cousins' wedding and if Rache didn't have to deal with this woman on a regular basis, I may have been less... dignified.
Oh, I wish you had been there too, that would have been fuuuun :)
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Date: 2007-08-23 11:49 pm (UTC)Aye, that's what gets me. How can ANYONE be that stupid and that ignorant in this day and age? It's simply NOT POSSIBLE to be that stupid. The only way someone can believe that is if, on some level, they want to believe it.
I told her. I also told her that I didn't want her to tell off or snub her MiL in any way. I never have to deal with MiL again, but Rache and her husband and her daughter will and I don't want to be the cause of a rift between them. I don't want my issues with the woman to make her family life difficult.
Aye, i can do without the good opinion of creatures like that. there are too many good people in the world to waste time on the bad ones.
Boots! Oooh, must hire the booted one!
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Date: 2007-08-23 11:50 pm (UTC)Gah. WTF is UP with that mindset, anyway? I have never, ever understood it... and I've known a gay guy who -was- a child predator. The one has nothing to do with the other. (Actually, I believe there are many, many more straight predators.)
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:52 pm (UTC)One of the things that gets me is I really think that creature was GENUINELY CONCERNED about her granddaughter, and it leaves such a bad taste in the mouth. I mean, it's one thing to be hated, I KNOW the bigots hate me, I can hate them right back - but to have people afraid for the safety of their children because of me? Gah, that's harder, much harder.
Thank you again :). And yes, they would have gold curtains and they will love them and they will nag for more! And some will be in CRUSHED VELVET!
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Date: 2007-08-23 11:55 pm (UTC)Though I'm told by the various child experts that gender of the child is actually not related to the abuser's normal sexuality (most young boys who are molested are molested by heterosexuals, for example) since it's more about the power of the act (as an aside, most men who rape adult MEN are heterosexual too).
But I doubt she is aware of that or that well informed, and just making an ignorant assumption that isn't even logically consistant with its own hate.
Thank you, I'm glad I didn't make a huge issue of it there. And I sitll boggle at "no offence." Like saying it will make it all better
(no subject)
Date: 2007-08-23 11:56 pm (UTC)Heh, there's no such thing as too much time on your hands when it leads to whackiness.
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Date: 2007-08-24 12:00 am (UTC)Beloved cuddling is certainly on the menu. he's giving me my space first I think - he always tends to know what I need even if I aren't entirely sure. Heee, now that would be a plan to use against her, but that would mean meeting her again and I'm going to try really hard to pretend she doens't exist :)
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Date: 2007-08-24 12:05 am (UTC)Gods I hate the words "no offence." if they didn't want to cause offence, they really wouldn't have said it.