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I just want to say thanks

http://community.livejournal.com/metaquotes/7109816.html?thread=155510456#t155510456

Thank you oh straight guy for telling us sensitive gay folks when we're overreacting. Thank you for telling us that what we take as blatant homophobia isn't and that we're indulging in panic. And thank you for telling us that just because a company says it's homophobic delisting WASN'T homophobic then it isn't. We realise that the sensitive queer types are not really the best people to spot homophobia. Thank you, your het-ness, in pointing out our error.

In future we should take pains not to be a... what was it? Oh yes, a hyper-sensitive community. And maybe we can find some new hobbies except for our "Recreational outrage." That's going to be hard y'know - because personally I can't think of ANYTHING more FUN than being insulted, treated as a lesser person or some filthy secret. I know it certainly made it worth getting up in a morning and it's going to be hard going on without that daily kick in the teeth.


Your special award is in the post. It may be covered in sarcasm - but I'm sure that wipes off with just a little condescension - which you seem to have in copious amounts

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Date: 2009-04-21 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etumukutenyak.livejournal.com
::applauds::

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Date: 2009-04-21 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] touchstone.livejournal.com
It's sad, because his /general/ point - that when we come to expect attacks, we can start to see them even where they don't exist - is absolutely correct. He picked the wrong subject on which to trot it out. Perhaps because he didn't look past his present argument to see other examples, he's portraying it as a character flaw, a failing. He's wrong.

It's a problem and a reaction that we should try to be aware of, to minimize...of course. But it's not a character flaw. When you see it in a severe form, it's almost always a symptom, a scar, from being a victim of abuse.

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Date: 2009-04-22 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logophilos.livejournal.com
There's no shortage of people sitting back in their armchairs with the metaphorical glass of brandy going 'Socialist scum' or the equivalent in any of these discussions, is there?

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Date: 2009-04-22 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] only-playing.livejournal.com
What I think the original author might not realize is that some people actually do look to see what the initial incident was, and then decide to act in outrage if appropriate. I take all cases of *OMGWTFBBQ* with a grain of salt until I look them up. In this case, the outrage was justified.

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Date: 2009-04-22 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klgaffney.livejournal.com
honestly? yes, i think the weekend thing was a bit of an "oops" on their part--as they were working on a system that does, in fact, lend itself to hiding things they don't approve of, a system with which gay fiction writers and publishers have had problems before, documented and dating from at least last year. the "glitch" brought that out into the open. so, in the end, i think the outrage was A) justified, and B) a damned useful wake up call.

...*sigh* the rest is same story, different group. i do love how it's always the people that aren't a part of the minority group telling the minority group how they should or shouldn't feel about something. talk about fail.

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Date: 2009-04-23 10:53 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-04-23 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I think he made some bad mistakes in presentation. Firstly - well, he's condescending as hell - really really condescending. Secondly - he used actual examples - examples he didn't seem to know all that much about and went on to belittle the hurt and insult. Thirdly - as you said, he failed to acknowledge or realise that people are hurt and wounded by prejudice and there's a reason why people flare up when so attacked. Fourthly he's presuming to know what is and what isn't offensive to minority groups he is not a part of.

Now if he were generically calling for clam, understanding and a deep breath before reacting - it may have worked. But his delivery, choice of topic and general frame of an attack in and of itself failed on so many levels

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Date: 2009-04-23 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Is there ever?

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Date: 2009-04-23 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
He's confusing "I don't understand why you're all outraged" with "I'm not outraged - so you guys must be overreacting" either that or he dismissed it out of hand.

Exactly - I never trust second or third or fourth hand knowledge - I try to do some digging first. Then I go howler monkey rage.

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Date: 2009-04-23 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Aye it was an oops - but the way it was handled - the long term nature of it and the depth of it suggested some severe flaws in their systems - AND a homophobic disapproval of homosexuals and homosexual writing. It's been a problem for a while - and it is offensive and insulting that it IS such a problem. I am glad that this angry roar has finally dragged it out and hopefully headed for a resolve.

Isn't that the truth? I just LOVE it when privileged folk tell those angry minorities to get over themselves. Isn't it so special? *ow grinding my teeth too hard* I'm sometimes bemused at what planet they live on that that is even remotely considered a good idea

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