In what reality does this make ANY POSSIBLE SENSE?!

Stolen from Colubra, quoting Jon Stewart on the Daily Show

'So it's OKAY to waterboard a guy OVER EIGHTY TIMES, but GOD FORBID that the guy who could understand what that prick was saying has a boyfriend."

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=227351&title=moral-kombat

Because I'm desperately trying to understand here and I DO NOT GET IT. I do not understand how twisted your mind has to be for this to be even remotely SENSIBLE, let alone logical!

Sex as an overriding moral priority

Actually I’m going to expand on my last post with something I’ve been musing on a forum recently.

I do not get where some people’s morality come from. I literally cannot picture it and cannot understand it. It makes no rational sense no matter how I look at it.

And the problem I have is this idea of sex as a moral issue. Sex is sex. Sure there are immoral ways to have sex - but these usually involve coersion, violence, force or cheating and deceit - the immorality is not in the sex itself.

I do not understand how sex and sexuality can be inherently moral issues in and of themselves. I do not understand why who you are attracted to is a matter of morality. I do not understand why nudity is a matter for morality. I do not understand why the type of sex or amount of sex or the people you have sex with or the number of people you have sex with or the place you have sex are moral issues. I do not understand why the depiction of nakedness or of any sex act can be considered a moral issue. I just CANNOT understand it. I cannot understand where good and evil and morality enter the equation.

I can understand why some sexual practices are not good ideas from a common sense standpoint - in the same way I think that juggling meat cleavers is a bad idea. I don’t think it’s an EVIL idea or a MORALLY WRONG idea - I just think it’s a damn stupid idea.

Not only do I not understand why sex is a moral issue, but I further am UTTERLY baffled why sex is THE OVERRIDING MORAL ISSUE. It trumps all others! It is like the core of moral values, the pinnacle of goodness!

To quote the video I linked again "So it's OKAY to waterboard a guy OVER EIGHTY TIMES, but GOD FORBID that the guy who could understand what that prick was saying has a boyfriend." AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO THINK LIKE THIS. There are people who can make excuses and reasons to justify TORTURE one of the ULTIMATE evils but will decry someone over their SEXUALITY.

I’ve just been berated about Britain’s moral decline on a forum. I am bemused! what moral decline? We care for the poorest in society more than we used to, the most vulnerable, the most needing of help. We combat prejudice and bigotry more than we used to. We have greater value and understanding of personal rights and protections in the last couple of decades than we have ever had.

But we’re in moral decline. Why? Because of the terrible, racey, sexy shows on television. Televions programmes like Shameless, Queer as Folk, Life on Mars etc show naked bodies and couples having sex. I’m sorry, but I do not understand this. The presence of sweaty, nekked sexoring completely invalidates decades of social progress?

Hey back in the 50s women may been treated as little better than property and people of colour were treated like lesser species and we were still clinging to the tail-end of an oppressive and dictatorial empire but at least there was no nekkedness or sexoring! A much more good and moral age!

I just look at the very idea of sex being such an overpowering moral issue and my head hurts. I just can’t fit the idea into my brain

Race Fail, Foc_u et al

Race Fail has been rumbling across LJ for some time now. And it still continues today.

I haven't really posted on it. Partly because I started reading up on it late and still haven't caught up and partly because others have said everything I've wanted to say but with far more eloquence, passion and style. My posting to repeat what had already been said would largely be a "me too." A post that doesn't advance the conversation at all, but maybe lets me call myself and announce myself as one of the "good guys." In other words, it'd be about me.

Still the community foc_u has asked for awareness raising, so in a way, I guess I can posty in a manner that isn't entirely self-absorbed or rehashing of the same thing that have been said so many times and so much better than I could.

Personally... well, I try not to be clueless, but I know I am more than a little at times. I've said it before in posts on and around the subject - even the best of us will say or do things that will make us cringe in retrospect - and gods know I am guilty of that - and I most certainly am guilty of that about race, race in my writings and race in what I've written about other writings.

However just because we slip and just because we will be clueless and just because we WILL get it wrong doesn't remove the obligation to try.

I was going to add more - but y'know, its been said and rydra_wong and others have some link summaries that render redundant anything I could say