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Oh good, you have the damn piccolo. I'm happy for you, really. It's fun to make the whole raid dance.

But do it again and every mana user in this raid is going to rip out your lungs and feed them to you, damn it! We're trying to drink here!



-Dag (Sparky), the Resto shaman who had to use 5 mana biscuits to fill his mana bar.



And while we're at it, I hate to be boring and I know it's a little unreasonable but please please please can you remove any pointless crap when raiding?

Including:
None combat pets (seriously, when there's 25 of us ALL dropping a silly little pet that's a lot of excess crap I can click on by mistake)
Noggenfoggers (yeah my druid turned round and ran through the middle of you because he thought a skeleton had got past him and was mincing the healer- but of course it was the healer on noggen)
Deviate fish (the reason I pulled that mob off you, OT? Because you and the healer both look like ninjas)
The archmage freaking Vargoth. That git gets everywhere
Brewfest Kegs (because inebriation is going to help?)
Totems of Spirits (yes, the dps IS trying to kill them? Why? because they think they're ENEMY totems and are reacting quickly - as they should!)
Anything that makes you look like something we should kill rather than keep alive (Furbolg sticks, Blood elf disguises, orbs of deception) If you're not a druid, you should stay the same shape.
Mojo. (Because I KNOW one of you is going to turn into a frog mid battle)
Anything that puts a "debuff" on you (like Halowe'en pumpkins) that the Paladins will waste time trying to dispel.

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Date: 2008-05-22 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logophilos.livejournal.com
World of Warcraft speak makes Baby Jesus kill a masturbating kitten, you know.

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Date: 2008-05-22 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meridae.livejournal.com
Rumour has it that, in battlegrounds at least, becoming drunk is somehow useful in diminishing the effects of fear spells (because you're already staggering drunk perhaps?). Whether this is true or not I do not know, nor am I going to get drunk in a battleground to find out.

I have pet cats. Basically they stay in my bank because I feel sorry for the poor things having to run all over the place.

On the upside, my warlock has reached 60 and I just need a dungeon run and I can get his dread steed. YAYAYAYAY!

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Date: 2008-05-22 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
*must fight mental image* *oh gods must fight mental image*

*mental image winning*

*cries*

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Date: 2008-05-22 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
That would make sense... but I never pvp so I wouldn't no :)

I have a baby Elekk, a Wolpertinger and Egbert. I lub mah Egbert

You haven't seen the mats for that quest have you? *waits for the howls of anguish*

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Date: 2008-05-22 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinimaus.livejournal.com
So let's see:

"Ye Si

Chuang qian ming yue guang

Yi Shi di shang shuang

Ju tou wang ming yue

Di tou si gu xiang"

Yup, I still get more out of classical Chinese poetry than WOW-speak... :-p

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Date: 2008-05-22 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harald387.livejournal.com
It's good to be a guild officer. After the second time I /gkicked someone for using the goddamn piccolo during a raid (and no, they didn't get back in), people got the point that it wasn't welcome.

Farm raids are one thing, but we really do try to treat progression raids as serious business. Fortunately, few have problems with this.

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Date: 2008-05-22 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphybelle.livejournal.com
Hahaha, apart from the noncombat pets (we bring them out for luck... I love my netherwhelp) I agree with every single thing here.

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Date: 2008-05-22 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphybelle.livejournal.com
*hugs you* there there, to the uninitiated, w0w isn't awesome :(

We know better.

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Date: 2008-05-22 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amynnah.livejournal.com
Non-combat pets are good for two things, and two things only.

Speaking as a Dr00d...
1. Role-playing.
2. Helping someone cross-faction not in your group see your position when you're stealthed.

I take lots of things with me on groups/raids:
1. Extra water (at least 60, with or without a Mage in the group, because not all Mages care to give food and water to the party).
2. Extra cooked food with +Agil, +Str, or +Stam buffs, because the Rogues and Warriors don't always bring extra food (or know how to cook at all).
3. Bandages, and lots of.
4. Change of gear (both my Druids have a complete healing set, a complete bear set, and a complete cat set), in case I'm called on to fulfill a role if someone abandons the party.
5. ~15 healing and ~15 mana pots to assist the healers and tanks.

Given the amount of stupid that seems to have hit Kirin Tor lately, I've also starting bringing extra arrows bullets, and food for the dumbass Hunters I've been stuck grouping with, as well as creating macros for the Mages to stop sheeping my taget as it's a waste of their mana, plus it pisses me off (especially when I'm MT).

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Date: 2008-05-22 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amynnah.livejournal.com
Given the amount of stupid that seems to have hit Kirin Tor lately, I've also starting bringing extra arrows bullets, and food for the dumbass Hunters I've been stuck grouping with, as well as creating macros for the Mages to stop sheeping my taget as it's a waste of their mana, plus it pisses me off (especially when I'm MT).

Unfortunately, it seems intelligence via osmosis has struck my brain with the amount of typos in the above.

Fixed: Given the amount of stupid that seems to have hit my home server, Kirin Tor, lately, I've also started bringing extra arrows, bullets, and food for the dumbass Hunters I've encountered in groups. I've also had to create a macro for the Mages to stop sheeping my target while I'm main-tanking, as it's a waste of their mana, and it pisses me off.

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Date: 2008-05-22 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empty-mirrors.livejournal.com
*rofl*

also word

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Date: 2008-05-22 04:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
1. Extra water (at least 60, with or without a Mage in the group, because not all Mages care to give food and water to the party).

As a mage, I think those kinds of mages should be set on fire and gkicked, especially with the wonderful refreshment tables. Level 70 mages have ZERO excuses for not providing food to a party.

Before refreshment tables, I still conjured enough food and drink for the entire damn 25 man raid gottdammit. It's a class feature designed to save the raiding party cash and time that could instead be put towards flasks, reagents, or if nothing else, freeking repairs.

Garumph.

2. Extra cooked food with +Agil, +Str, or +Stam buffs, because the Rogues and Warriors don't always bring extra food (or know how to cook at all).

That's totally cool, although I would hope the folks who can't cook would arrange before the raid to get some food from another guildie (or the guild bank, we keep tons usually).

I bring +spell and +heal and +mp5 food, and usually +stam (we've been doing SSC so showing up early and fishing myself silly is becoming a habit).

3. Bandages, and lots of.

Huzzah! People who think they don't need to carry bandages for a l70 raid make me cry.

4. Change of gear (both my Druids have a complete healing set, a complete bear set, and a complete cat set), in case I'm called on to fulfill a role if someone abandons the party.

A particularly acute problem for hybrid classes, but even as a mage I carry some extra changes of gear for things like "Looks like I need more stamina for this fight", and I carry a +hit set vs a +dam set for bosses vs trash (I like the big numbers).

5. ~15 healing and ~15 mana pots to assist the healers and tanks.
I carried 20 mana injector pots around as a fire mage, despite never needing to use them ever. So very handy if we've been wiping all evening on some new content, but are ALMOST there...

as well as creating macros for the Mages to stop sheeping my taget as it's a waste of their mana, plus it pisses me off (especially when I'm MT).

I, on the other hand, am considering making a macro to complain about the melee DPS breaking my damn sheep with their damn bleed or poison effects damn them all they can tank it now... damnit.

Ahem.

Sheeping an actively tanked target can, rarely, have a purpose. It interrupts some effects that otherwise have no interrupt. But it's REALLY rare and usually the raid can just take it on the chin anyways.

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Date: 2008-05-22 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amynnah.livejournal.com
....I love you. <3 My (active) Druid is only level 69, but it's been very painful PuGing (and occasionally Guild-running) in instances...

Most of this was directed at one of my beloved Guildies and her man-attachment, both of whom play Mages. We run normal stuff and inevitably end up wiping, a lot, because the two of them are still learning aggro management. I love them both to death as people, but as players... my head meets my desk a lot.

1. They never make food or water for the group/raid. I'm kind of lucky I'm a Feral Druid, and rarely need food for myself for health (yay Healing Touch etc), but... gah.

2. The extra cooked food is usually to help the melee DPS/Tank hit harder/live longer, and it's become habit to save every bit of meat I pick up in the Outlands, to cook. I always end up with extra and hand it out anyway. :)

3. I try to bring a bare minimum of 20 Netherweave bandages to every group. I try to keep an average of 40 on me for raids.

4. Gear changes make me nuts... but I do it because I have those awesome healing spells along with melee DPS bonuses. Just because I'm Feral doesn't mean I can't heal (don't listen to the whiners, by the way. <3). I can off-heal even in my cat suit, but it's extremely difficult, and I run out of mana with 4-5 HT's. And my Tranquility spell is reserved for the healer, and the healer, only. Not the Mage(s) demanding I cast it on them mid-boss-fight when the Healer has exhausted their mana supply.

5. I'm used to bringing extra pots. People ask, and I give. :)

6. ::hugs on the last:: I know your pain very well. I'm an extremely careful tank/DPS (Lea leans more towards cat, while my retired Druid was bear), and I'm extra careful when having a Mage in the group. The last one was, again, directed towards my Guildmates out of sheer frustration. If I'm actively hitting it, and then hear that, "Baa-aa!" I get pissed and say, mid-fight, "For the x+1'th time, STOP SHEEPING MY TARGET!" Usually this is repeated 3-4 times per fight. I've begged them to sheep targets that are going after the healers instead. Both the Mages also have this thing about pulling. With AoE. ::facepalm:: And then they wonder why they die a lot. You try to patiently explain these things to them, and get, "How do you know!? YOU PLAY A DRUID. GET BACK TO TANKING!" "....I'm a cat..." "JUST TANK DAMNIT!"

I've never levelled a Mage past 20, but I know people who play them very well. Plus I'm observant. :) Mages are great for sheep-pulls, AoEing non-elite groups, re-sheeping if the tank/DPS isn't completely brain-dead, freezing targets while watching for healer aggro, and making excellent burst DPS. Then you get the bad Mages who need more help than God... ::shakes head::

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Date: 2008-05-22 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meridae.livejournal.com
Actually, yes, I have seen the materials for that quest, and I have most of them ::grins:: Just need to mine some more Dark Iron Ore and I'm set. I bought the dragon scales and the shadow potion, and a friend gave me the shards and is going to help me mine the ore, and then we're going on the Scholomance dungeon run (I think there's a Dire Maul run after that too). I was more than a little annoyed that the stuff I needed to buy in Jaedenar was 150 g (especially as I also had to buy my mage her riding mount the same day) but overall it's all good! (Unless there are materials I don't know about yet . . . but my friend is really good at helping me out when I need stuff - her level 70 goes on farming expeditions and does his daily quests and stuff to help me get money if I need it).

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Date: 2008-05-23 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
I will never see Chinese (or, rather, the Chinese dialects I know) as a musical language - too nasal.

Allll must speak-a the wow!

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Date: 2008-05-23 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Ah I am a guild officer, but we're toooo casual to gkick like that. But oooooh it's sooo tempting sometimes.

Oh, aye, there's a difference between smacking Gruul down and working you way to Kael'thas. But still, it's annoying because for us Gruul and Maggy are a prequel raid before a real raid - something to spend 30 minutes on before going to a "real" raid. It's actually MORE frustrating to be delayed fighting Gruul or in Karazhan than it is on Zul'jin because you KNOW this raid should only be taking 10 minutes a boss. I mean, I can COPE with Zul'jin taking 30 minutes to kill, even if lack of focus is annoying, but when it's Maulgar? That annoys

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Date: 2008-05-23 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
LOl, I love the pets, I have several myself - it's just after children's week we had 25 Egberts running around (or Willies or Elekks) add in our usual complement of the Archmage Vargoth and various totems and you can barely see the mobs!

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Date: 2008-05-23 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphybelle.livejournal.com
I hate hate HATE the archmage :(

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Date: 2008-05-23 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Water - well, I agree because some raids (10 mans) we don't have a mage and nothing annoys me more than us showing up and finding 4 casters squealing about the lack of free water and the only things they have are their underspore pods. But if there's a mage present? They better get that table out - that's as much a part of being a mage in raids as sheeping and arcane intellect.

Food - well, us officers all cook and we all grind vast amounts of food and shove it in the gbank (I actually fish - ye gods the dedication!) and then take out some every progress raid (not gruuls or kara, for example) and give people 5 of each appropriate food (it also helps us to drop melee hit food on those rogues who think lots of AP means they don't need hit rating) but we're getting a little narked about it. Sure, goldenfish sticks and Spicy crawdad are not easily ground and I will provide - but there's NO reason they can't just grind their own damn basilisk or talbuks and post them to us to cook.

Bandages! Not having bandages is a demote or scream in our book - no excuse. Everyone is drowning in netherweave - no excuse

My druid carries dps and tanking gear, mainly because if I'm offtanking I need to do some severe damage sometimes but mainly because I can't be arsed in emptying my bags :)

Now as a feral druid I tend not to carry too many because I cna't use them without a rather unreliable macro :(. But mah shammy carries 20-25 mana pots (and sometimes uses them - and they're 4g each on our server!)

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Date: 2008-05-23 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Oh and hunters without bullets/rogues without poisons/anyone without regeants make me see red.

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Date: 2008-05-23 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
And people who bitch about the regeant costs? It's ludicrous! You can do 10 dailies in an hour and get a couple of hundred gold and they bitch about a few silvers?!

Aye, tons in the bank - people love to put it in the bank and ask for nether vortexes in exchange :) But how hard is it to grind some basilisk and send it to a chef?

No bandages = no raid. Seriously there is no excuse EVER in not having them

I tend to just have a hit set on my mage because I OBSESS about hit. I'm hit capped and like it - but I carry a stamina set too because I'm SQUISHY. Mages are.

My poor shammy EATS mana pots. *cries* I have a huge debate with myself re flasks and elixirs. Elixirs are good and cheap but when you wipe you need more but flasks are FREAKING expensive. Especially on our server

Not just bleeds and posions - but Aoe! NO BLADE FLURRY! No multishot! Can't you SEE it?!

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Date: 2008-05-23 04:14 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-05-23 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinimaus.livejournal.com
Ni shuo hanyu ma?

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Date: 2008-05-23 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amynnah.livejournal.com
Damnit! I forgot to say I bring at least 20 of each: Reagents for Ressing and GotW. If it's a 10-man raid, I bring at least 40 reagents for GotW. And inevitably, I get another Druid in that group going, "i fergot mai stuffz...."

....maybe I should start carrying bullets and arrows, and charge 50 silver per stack of 200... hmmm....

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